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Old 09-26-2003, 01:06 PM   #1
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This is a little segway (word of the day) from the 403 cam thread but its the same question. This winter I'm pulling my motor out so I can redo the engine bay, repaint the motor, get the headers jet hot coated, ect anyways I was thinking, why not drop in a new cam. Heres what its going to be, I'm poor so PAW is looking really good, I'm saving for a paint job that will be done in the end of the winter and I'm taking her off the road at the end of December, so this is when I'm going to start my work. This is what will be done to help in my cam choice:

1. TH200r4 w/ D5 converter and shift kit
2. 2 1/4" Summit exhaust (it will have to do till I save enough for a better exhaust, and it beats the stock 2" kinked up glass packs that I have now)
3. Jet hot coated headers
4. 3.73 posi
5. and this will be going back to daily driver as soon as spring comes

Ok now I was thinking of a PAW 204/214 or a 214/224 cam with lifters and I will be getting new springs too. I want good gas mileage but good power that will pull 5500rpm. I'm hoping for may high 13 passes but it isn't needed, I just need something better than this wimpy stock cam.
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Old 09-26-2003, 05:42 PM   #2
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Segue , Jake. Segway is the contraption President Bush fell off of..

This has been covered lots and lots of times and it's almost impossible to nail down a good all-around cam. The PAW cams are generic to the extreme.

I'm considering one of the Comp cams Xtreme energy series, probably the XE262H.


Here's a link to a company that carries them:


www.racenet.net/valve/cca-olds.php
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Old 09-26-2003, 08:40 PM   #3
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Segue , Jake. Segway is the contraption President Bush fell off of..
Close enough

Did I mention I'm on a limited budget, $119 for just a cam is a little up there for me
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Old 09-27-2003, 08:10 AM   #4
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The PAW grinds are generic, but they work, plain and simple. There is nothing wrong with them, especially if you're on a budget. I'd go with the larger one since you have headers, gears, and converter (I go big, anyway; the cam that's gonna go in my 403 is a 230/236 ). Crane makes a set of drop-in springs that will work with either of those cams with no machine work. Get valveguide seals while you're at it.
 
Old 09-27-2003, 08:48 AM   #5
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Ok now I was thinking of a PAW 204/214 or a 214/224 cam with lifters and I will be getting new springs too. I want good gas mileage but good power that will pull 5500rpm. I'm hoping for may high 13 passes but it isn't needed, I just need something better than this wimpy stock cam.
204/214 is way to small. I have a bigger cam than that in my ccc vin 9 307.
 
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Yeah the 214/224 will really make that 350 idle with authority. It wont be mistaken for a stocker anymore thats for sure. You might lose some of your meaty bottom end but over all in the long run it will be faster. To gain that meaty feel back why not install a higher stall while you at it, Oh didnt you say you were installing a 200-4R with a D5, that will work. With the 200-4R's lower first gear and the D5s 2400 stall you'l be fine with that cam!


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The PAW grinds are generic, but they work, plain and simple. There is nothing wrong with them, especially if you're on a budget.
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Old 10-06-2003, 09:26 PM   #7
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How does this size cam sound? Its a Lunati (pt# 00080LK)
280/290 duration
214/224 duration @.050
.472/.492 Lift
112 center line

Someone here is offering it to me for pretty cheap (slightly used) and I'm going to probably end up buying it, sounds good?
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Old 10-07-2003, 10:37 PM   #8
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Just to through a little gasoline on the fire, here's my take for a perfect street mobile cam....a 204/214 cam! Keep in mind that I'm thinking of the gent who has to depend on his ride daily and to get decent gas milage and run on regular and will let him hear his stereo and have a nice idle! To make it work "just right", you need a bit of compression. At the very least, 8.5 to one but of course, closer to 9 to one is ideal. A little more compression shouldn't be too hard to get with a conservative 30 thousands cut on the heads. Next, a little messaging of the bowls and runners with a die grinder. Heck, every single Swinging Richard on this board is capable of doing this with a minimum of cash and effort outlay! The stock intake is just fine, thankyou. Here's a bit of an inportant area...the exhaust. 2 1/14" pipes do quite well, if you can clamp off the cross over pipe and add another pipe from the driver's side for true duals. However, the single cat with the "442 cat back" dual exhaust is the next best thing and will do surprisingly well. Your "204" cammed auto will run "buttery" smooth. Best of all, when U step on the gas, the motor will have very nice pulling power and keep gathering steam until about 4800 rpm at which time the pull will taper off a bit but will still go to 5500 rpm. The iceing on the cake, is when the auto shifts into higher gear, there is still good pulling power...thats low speed torque talking! The double iceing is that you can run "highway" gears so you can keep up on the highway but still have crisp accelleration against those pesky foreigh auto's on the street. The "204" cam will give U that, my friend...I guarantee it!
 
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I want this motor to pull to 5500 rpm. Given I will lose some gas milage (I doubt I'll notice it), I will be putting in a O/D unit and I do a lot of 60mph driving, so I'm still be getting better milage than I am now, and with the 214/224 cam, it will give me the power I need to hopefully put those pesky stock turbo supras in there place.
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I want this motor to pull to 5500 rpm. Given I will lose some gas milage (I doubt I'll notice it), I will be putting in a O/D unit and I do a lot of 60mph driving, so I'm still be getting better milage than I am now, and with the 214/224 cam, it will give me the power I need to hopefully put those pesky stock turbo supras in there place.
If you are talking about MKIV supra's then you don't have a chance......

You need to decide what you want, mileage or power, and go for it. Yes I know you want both, but to get the best of either you have to choose one. That came should be pretty nice in a basically stock 350.
 
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That cam your thinking of buying is the same as PAWs 214/224, if hes charging you more then 30 bucks then why not fork the extra cash and get a new one from PAW for 60?
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Cam to beat a forced induction Supra....Humm, let me see...OK I've got just the ticket! First of all, chuck that 204 cam idea, that cam is for Power Puff Girls! Next, a set of full on, race ported early style heads cut about 80 thousands, stuffed with 455 valves. 1 3/4" headers and some 4.88 gears out back. Now for the cam, somewhere around 240 degrees of duration @ .050" lift will do nicely. Warning.. make sure if you wear false teeth, that you use "Super Poly Grip", cause you'll need it at idle! With a little race gas (lots of it) and your fingers crossed, you'll knock that Supra into next week! Heck, I'm pulling my 204 whimpy cam outa my 455 and going for the gusto with a "real man's cam"..Vipers look out!
 
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I'm buying the cam for 65 bucks vs. Paw cam 60 bucks. How bad would this cam effect my gas milage? Right now I'm pulling 12mpg, depending on where and how I'm driving. I will be putting in a 200r4, I'm going to guess this will be better for gas because A) 4th gear and B) its a more efficient (sp?) tranny.

Let me rephrase myself, I want to be able to handle most street or strip battles with higher end cars, I want to be able to keep up to a point, I know its a given that a modded Supra, 300zx, Porshe, or Viper are going to hand me my ass, but just don't want to get totally massacred
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Old 10-08-2003, 11:01 AM   #14
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Huh? I beat a 300zx twin turbo, how bad can it be, you seem like your real goal is getting you car into the 13's

One thing to remember is larger cams dont make extra power, they only unleash power that might be unreachable with your current cam (unreachable meaning the current cam is not allowing the engine to spin fast enough) If a larger cam drops your 1/4 mile time by a half second then you got a deal but dont expect anymore than that!

Now if you mate that cam with a higher stall then you might be able to work out maybe 3/4 a second faster.

Basicly what I'm saying is a cam alone is not the hot ticket BUT you car is lacking cam so that WOULD be my first step to improvment, as well as you might need to give that thing a modern tune, gas was different back then ya know!
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Oh gas!

if you keep the RPM's down then a slightly larger cam can improve the milage becuase the engine makes less vacume at lower RPM's so this will pull less through the carb and drawl less fuel but as soon as the RPM's raise up to about 2000 or higher the engine is gonna start to sing and drink more gas then a stocker!

So basicly get a 200-4R
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