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Old 09-17-2010, 07:17 PM   #1
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Default PF61 vs. PF61E

Does anyone know the difference between these AC Delco oil filters? I'm changing the oil and the one I put on before is a PF61, and the one I just bought (from Walmart) is a PF61E. I compared them and they're the same size but the inside of them aren't the same. Can I use the PF61E on my 307?
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Old 09-17-2010, 07:21 PM   #2
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Default Re: PF61 vs. PF61E

Check out this thread.

http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?t=73886
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Old 09-18-2010, 04:35 AM   #3
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Default Re: PF61 vs. PF61E

Take a spin over to www.bobistheoilguy.com and do a search for E-Core filters; lots of info over there on oil & filters, and additives.
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Old 09-18-2010, 04:43 AM   #4
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Default Re: PF61 vs. PF61E

IMO i would say away from the AC filters now there made wors then the Frams now. the end caps are crappy glued plastic and the inside cage is thin plastic.
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Default Re: PF61 vs. PF61E

I don't think they're horrible filters for the grocery getter or stock weekend cruiser that you do regular oil/filter changes on. I've got a couple of cases of 61's I got to use up, so it's going to be a while. They were Ebay specials I bought a few years ago for 9.99 per case, so I couldn't pass it up.

For my every day drivers, I'm using Wix filters which have more square inches of filtration area and better micron size to boot than the Delcos and are just SLIGHTLY more in cost. FWIW, once I switched to wix (or Napa Gold), my oil pressure has gone up a bit even to notice the change on factory gages.
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IMO i would say away from the AC filters now there made wors then the Frams now. the end caps are crappy glued plastic and the inside cage is thin plastic.
X2. I used to use AC filters exclusively, until they changed the design. The top plate (where it screws to the adapter) is now flat, much thinner, and as noted not welded. Also, every one of their filters seems to be shrinking. My truck takes a PF1218, which used to be a full quart filter. The same part number is now a half-height filter. I've switched to NAPA Gold.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:46 AM   #7
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Hastings or Wix only.
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Hastings or Wix only.
The more interesting part is WHY do you only use Wix or Hastings?

For example, even though Hastings/Federated are made at the same manufacturer, I'd go with Hastings because...



Doesn't mean the Hasting filter is BETTER necessarily, but it appears there's a big difference in quality.
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That is a big difference . I run Hastings because I have heard good things and can get at Peavy Mart, they switched from Fram. I also run Wix or Napa gold depending where I am buying them. The Corolla uses a tiny filter and usually get Hastings, bit cheaper. Is the NAPA Gold identical? I was told the Auto Sense brand up here is also supposedly made by Wix but probably the cheaper filter. Way cheaper may have to cut one open to see what is inside.
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It is a common perception that Wix makes Napa Gold filters to their specs. I'm not saying they don't, as they probably do, just can't say for sure they do. They may be the exact same filter as a wix with a different color/label.
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Old 09-18-2010, 12:15 PM   #11
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Default Re: PF61 vs. PF61E

It usually says on NAPA gold filter boxes that its manufactored by Wix, at least everytime I checked (to make sure their not switching manufactors on me). Polulator (sp?) makes a really good filter from what I read along with Mobil 1.
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