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Old 05-07-2010, 05:06 AM   #1
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Default 514hp Olds 455 build in this months Popular Hot Rodding

i grabbed this rag the other day while at the store.. they blew $8500 on this motor that used a stock crank.. a Chinese water pump and balancer... come on $8500? There really wasnt anything fancy about the engine other than it was .030 and used Eagle rods IIRC..

just in case anyone is interested id throw this out there...
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:13 AM   #2
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I guess they spent 5,000 on beer and pep shows.
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:20 AM   #3
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Considering that they included a detailed price list in the article, what's your point? Sorry folks, but that's the real world.

More impressive is the torque curve - over 495 ft-lbs from 3000 to 5500 RPM, with the peak at 540 (again, over a very wide range of RPMs). More impressive still is the other article in that issue with the 400 cu in SBC, which cost $1000 MORE than the Olds and made 523 HP and 523 ft-lbs.
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More impressive is the torque curve - over 495 ft-lbs from 3000 to 5500 RPM, with the peak at 540 (again, over a very wide range of RPMs). More impressive still is the other article in that issue with the 400 cu in SBC, which cost $1000 MORE than the Olds and made 523 HP and 523 ft-lbs.
Obviously, this is conclusive proof you can build an ALMOST more powerful Olds for less than an SBC!
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Considering that they included a detailed price list in the article, what's your point? Sorry folks, but that's the real world.

More impressive is the torque curve - over 495 ft-lbs from 3000 to 5500 RPM, with the peak at 540 (again, over a very wide range of RPMs). More impressive still is the other article in that issue with the 400 cu in SBC, which cost $1000 MORE than the Olds and made 523 HP and 523 ft-lbs.
The detailed parts list included many odds and ends that the average rodder could do without.. and or.. find elsewhere, used... at a bargainesque price..

$272 for a dist? come on what about rubbing on your old $20 swap meet HEI
or Mondildo's $659 torker that can be had for a C note on Ebay..

Ok ok for this potent of a build i can see forking over $1700 hunski's for a set of Ebrock heads..but hell ive even seen them wash up for $1000-1200 used!

My point is..while im very impressed with this build however i think it corners could have been cut to make it more affordable for the average guy.. without being a hack and skimping on quality parts/machine work
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Usually magazine articles go the opposite way... you know, "900 HP for under $2,000." I'd rather have them set the printed budget a little high, and leave it to the readers to figure out how to bring it in for less.
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:43 PM   #7
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Usually magazine articles go the opposite way... you know, "900 HP for under $2,000." I'd rather have them set the printed budget a little high, and leave it to the readers to figure out how to bring it in for less.
Indeed I like it better this way where they included everything at over-the-counter prices.
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Usually magazine articles go the opposite way... you know, "900 HP for under $2,000." I'd rather have them set the printed budget a little high, and leave it to the readers to figure out how to bring it in for less.
I agree here... engine builds always cost more than expected, and putting together a comprehensive list of everything needed, and their listed retail prices, is nice to see. If you can save money from that, you are only doing yourself better.
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Default Re: 514hp Olds 455 build in this months Popular Hot Rodding

Well true maybe its a good thing those engine guys list prices as they are....it gives us cheap bastards some give room as to where we can appropriately cut corners
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well at least they made more then 1 hp per CI
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I haven't seen this article yet, maybe Ill frame it and put it and the 400 sbc article in the garage. Might be useful during the bench racing sessions.
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I agree with Scott and Matt has a great idea. Also power is power whether it comes in the form of torque or HP its just a matter of how you harness it. Using an average is best but adding the two peaks for a total to compare to another engine is still much better than using either just HP or just TQ. 514 HP & 540 TQ = 1054 for the Olds. The $1000 more expensive Chevy made 523 HP & 523 TQ to equal 1046 ie less power.

While I did not read the Chevy build and it has less displacement the bottom line is the Olds made more power not less. Displacement and torque is almost always your friend in a heavy street car. The same power out of a larger engine will almost always leave the larger engine as the most docile and the most reliable. Docile from less cam to cubes and less rpm so it requires less spring pressure & valve train stress, and less converter & gear to get into the power band.
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