Anybody here every play with a Fiero?

Seanmay1 · 03-27-2009, 07:40 PM

It would be cool as hell to but a turbo busa motor in one. But seriously how hard would it be to put the 4.0 aurora motor/trans or a northstar in one? I bet that would haul ass lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwC7l...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_L14...eature=related

smooth_358 · 03-27-2009, 07:47 PM

they make a bolt in kit to put a chev 350 in there, my uncle was going to do it but his wife has now made his balls dissapear and he drives a mini van

LedHed430 · 03-27-2009, 07:53 PM

Pffft,

drop a Poncho 455 in there mated to a Riviera transaxle.

Yes, it's been done. I've got a copy of High Performance Pontiac around here somewhere with an article on it.

Rich

Seanmay1 · 03-27-2009, 07:59 PM

now that would be an amazing ride lol, 500 ft lbs in something that small would never get any traction

TylerW · 03-27-2009, 08:13 PM

Stock they are a piece of sh*t with a Chevette front end and a Pontiac 6000 "rearend"(front end with no steering components).

The addition of a powerful engine seems to help things a lot

and one popular swap is the 3800 Series II supercharged..I think the cradle even bolts in.

The Stickman · 03-27-2009, 08:19 PM

Well I have had 11 of them. Aurora's and Northstars are pretty easy except for the wiring harness. You can put almost any engine you want in them. My fav is the Super Duty 4 cylinder.

smooth_358 · 03-27-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 84Cutlass

Stock they are a piece of sh*t with a Chevette front end and a Pontiac 6000 "rearend"(front end with no steering components).

The addition of a powerful engine seems to help things a lot

and one popular swap is the 3800 Series II supercharged..I think the cradle even bolts in.

ha, at the state fair last year during the burnout competition there was a supercharged 3800. that things sounded super mean. however it broke during the competition. but it was claimed to run high 12's with that motor and on street tires

ck80 · 03-27-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 84Cutlass

Stock they are a piece of sh*t with a Chevette front end and a Pontiac 6000 "rearend"(front end with no steering components).

Not entirely true. That's a decent analysis for the early ones, 84-87, but you're dead wrong if you lump them all in there the 1988s were an entirely different animal altogether.

Yes, I own a 1988, and, its one of the most fun toys I've had. I highly recommend one to anybody, and $ for $ the 3800 swap is probably the best way to do it... power and fuel economy.

Seanmay1 · 03-27-2009, 10:59 PM

how much would you all think it would cost to swap in a super charged 3800

ck80 · 03-28-2009, 12:28 AM

It depends on what year your start with, and how much work you do yourself. It can be done for around $4k if youre handy and do some cutting/welding/work yourself. Out of pocket, and if you dont get good deals, could easily be an $8k or more swap.

Fixed costs:

fuel pump upgrade (esp if a 4cyl)
motor mount set
custom headers/exh
re-pin and splice wiring harness (buy donor 6cyl one to modify if you use a duke coupe)
buy donor engine
if you go with the 4t60e trans with OD buy that
axle shafts to go with the 4t60e

so on so forth, you get the picture. If you seriously want to do it hit up www.fiero.nl and read through the tech section. tons of modified fieros on there. Oh yea, and I recommend starting with an 88.

caprice_2nv · 03-28-2009, 06:03 AM

What about the 5.3V8 that came in some late model Impala's and Grand Prix's. I would think that might be easier than the Northstar since the engine is physically smaller. Not to mention the engine is a lot more reliable.

Seanmay1 · 03-28-2009, 06:00 PM

I would really like to do one with the 4.0 Aurora motor but i haven't found any that have been done and i doubt i could figure it all out. Seems like a supercharged 3800 will be the easiest and would probably get some good mileage to. I bet the newer 5.3 out of the impala would be a bit pricey

86cutman · 03-28-2009, 09:54 PM

never had a fiero toy myself but a buddy of mine had

one with a 3.8L and a countash body was the coolest thing to drive around in until he drove it into a telephone/ electrical pole heavy foot and wet roads dont mix well with over confidence

prfct80ctlss · 03-29-2009, 07:58 AM

I heard the 3.4 DOHC was a fun swap too, since that engine belonged in a sports car, not a lumina....

dan2286 · 03-29-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by prfct80ctlss

I heard the 3.4 DOHC was a fun swap too, since that engine belonged in a sports car, not a lumina....

I had so many problems with that engine, but when it ran right it was fast.

prfct80ctlss · 03-29-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dan2286

I had so many problems with that engine, but when it ran right it was fast.

I always hear that, the only problem I had with mine was alternators, i put a gazillion miles on it and it never gave me any other types of problems.

dan2286 · 03-29-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by prfct80ctlss

I always hear that, the only problem I had with mine was alternators, i put a gazillion miles on it and it never gave me any other types of problems.

Mine was a 95 and I believe they were trying out obd ii on that engine, I think that caused a lot of problems.

BILL DEMMER · 03-29-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 84Cutlass

Stock they are a piece of sh*t with a Chevette front end and a Pontiac 6000 "rearend"(front end with no steering components).

The addition of a powerful engine seems to help things a lot

and one popular swap is the 3800 Series II supercharged..I think the cradle even bolts in.

as someone that ordered his '85 fiero se 2m6 manual 4-spd in august of 1984, i have to correct you too.

front suspension is chevette '84-'87, with a complete redesign for '88, the fireo's last year. a koni upgrade helped that immensely.

the rear sub-chassis is all X body(fwd), not A body(fwd). the v6's subchassis is different from the 4's version. a koni suspension kit helped out back there too, along with an addco rear sway bar. i chose to not use the herb adams bar as it was way too much bar for the car.

with the above being said, the car is way too light and would likely pull wheelies easily. when the weight shifted, it would be very difficult to control, as in a road racing circuit.

bill

Seanmay1 · 03-29-2009, 07:44 PM

I think i could handle this, doesn't look to hard lol

Sub 10 sec 3800 swap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2sln...ture=rec-HM-rn

oldscsc · 03-29-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by prfct80ctlss

I heard the 3.4 DOHC was a fun swap too, since that engine belonged in a sports car, not a lumina....

IMO, I'd go with the supercharged 3800, for the sole purpose of the aftermarket. Much greater on the 3800 than the twin cam. Also, people have had very good luck with turbo'ing the 3800. There's even one guy on the W-body forum with a twincharged 3800 (turbo'd plus the stock supercharger). Also, you could upgrade the 3800 to a Gen V blower (I'm not sure on much about this though.)

Seanmay1 · 03-29-2009, 09:33 PM

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/D...rged_48312.htm

yea i want a fiero w/ sc 3800 this car is fast

prfct80ctlss · 03-30-2009, 07:18 AM

A 3800 Supercharged swap would be like a chevy swap into an olds, just because there are alot of them doesnt mean its cool. LOL.

ck80 · 03-30-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by prfct80ctlss

A 3800 Supercharged swap would be like a chevy swap into an olds, just because there are alot of them doesnt mean its cool. LOL.

Yes, because the two engines offered in the fiero (depending on year, 1984 was 4 cyl only) were the Chevy version of the iron duke with horsepower ratings ranging from 85 to around 105 depending on the year, and in 1985-1988 cars a POS Chebby 60* v6 in the form of a 2.8 with the crappy oiling and premature bearing wear.

Both of which were awesome Pontiac motors that its important to keep in the car so it stays true to its heritage...

Lets be serious here and not turn this into another one of "those threads". If anything a BOP motor like a 3800 is more appropriate in a Pontiac than a Chebby under your argument anyways.

mrm24_86 · 03-30-2009, 05:10 PM

I figured something like this would be more practical for every day driving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9yKs...eature=related

prfct80ctlss · 03-30-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ck80

Yes, because the two engines offered in the fiero (depending on year, 1984 was 4 cyl only) were the Chevy version of the iron duke with horsepower ratings ranging from 85 to around 105 depending on the year, and in 1985-1988 cars a POS Chebby 60* v6 in the form of a 2.8 with the crappy oiling and premature bearing wear.

Both of which were awesome Pontiac motors that its important to keep in the car so it stays true to its heritage...

Lets be serious here and not turn this into another one of "those threads". If anything a BOP motor like a 3800 is more appropriate in a Pontiac than a Chebby under your argument anyways.

Did you notice the LOL after my post? settle down n00b, I wasnt being serious. There would be no better mod freindly engine then the 3800 sc